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Would you go to a furry con if it meant securing an internship?
>>114855 (OP) 
No but I would go if it meant securing a furry baddie
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>>114855 (OP) 
No, because believe it or not I'm already gainfully employed and posting when I should be working

>>114860
I would too although it's probably a terrible idea. Arguably getting a normie gf is a terrible idea too so it's not bad in comparison.
>>114855 (OP) 
I'd definitely go if it meant I'd finally meet a woman with similar interests.
Although not the best idea since the average female fursuiter now is sadly just another OF model making money off desperate nerd losers- not a creative autistic love interest.
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>>114881
>I'd definitely go if it meant I'd finally meet a woman with similar interests.
Girlfriends are more important than employment opportunities.
I now declare this to be a gf thread.

How do you find a good one? I've spent a few hours on the apps and it just feels demeaning. I imagine it's that way for both sides.
Is the foo full of coldhearted chuds, yearning chuds, or guys with gfs? I, personally, am a yearning chud.
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>>114855 (OP) 
how the hell would you even secure an internship at a furry convention
>walk up to guy in an giant pink obese latex animal suit
<hey uhh... can i work for you?
issa marge
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>>114908
Stay off those apps, dude.
Trust me, if anything, they will only radicalize you.
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>>114912
I do this, I haven't gotten a job yet but I did get gang raped in an alley
The "rich furry" joke among normies is a meme. Every fursuiter you'll encounter under 30 has commissioned their fursuit through high-interest loans. If you talk to one long enough you'll hear of their woes of paying more interest on their fursuit debt than on their student loan debt. The ones who have the discretionary money to not need loans are single and live with their parents and/or are greymuzzles.
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>>114949
I have a friend that happened to be in the airport when a con was going on. He described them as white trash.
yes
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>>114908
I too am a yearning chud, so I'm not really in a position to give advice. Still though, I'd recommend not using dating apps. I've never used dating apps before, but I can't imagine they're effective or good for you.

For me, it seems like dating apps distort the natural process of forming connections with people by turning it into an artificial min/maxing game where everyone is trying to find the "best" partner. I believe dating apps do this through the endless stream of swipes.
 
Let's say you found a partner who ticks most of your boxes. You two could live a happy life together, but what if you could keep swiping until you find a partner who ticks all of the boxes? What if you're settling for less? <-- I think the way dating apps are designed pushes their users into this mindset; a fear of missing out. That fear of missing out thus makes it hard for the user to settle down with someone. If I am right, then the issue described would benefit the company by encouraging user retention on the app, whether intentional or not. (this also explains why many dating apps are also hookup apps)

Just think about it, were we as a species really meant to find our special one through swiping past person after person? I doubt it. If I had to guess, I'd say we formed connections largely through repeated exposure to others. That repeated exposure happening as people walk to and from work, at local pubs, at church service, at community events, etc. Some of those connections would become something more -- couples. Unfortunately, modern society and infrastructure has isolated us a lot. We drive to and from work, third spaces are largely not present, and the car centric infrastructure of most places makes it difficult to move around without a vehicle. I know this because like you, I am also American. 

There are a million more reasons why I think forming relationships, especially romantical ones, has gotten harder, but I'm going to save myself the effort of listing them. I think if you want to find a good one, you need to be in good social places (repeatedly). Luckily, there are plenty of places for this and which ones you choose will depend on your preference. Jiu-jitsu gyms and indoor rock climbing places come to my mind. You are bound to meet cool people there (fitness related stuff can be great for meeting others if you find the right spot). If you aren't into activities like that, you'll find other options. I also think you should attend local events when possible. Join a 5k, attend a square-dance, or whatever is in your community. You'll likely see the same people multiple times by doing this. You'll probably form genuine connections, and maybe find the one. By the way, don't follow this advice with the goal of exclusively finding a girlfriend. Have fun and genuinely be present. 


FINAL THOUGHTS: I have been forming my thoughts on this stuff as I type it out though and I haven't used dating apps before either, so keep in mind that this post might not be as well thought out as I'd like. (it's also really late and i'm sleep deprived lmao). By the way, your chances of finding someone will be much higher if you are fit (actually fit, not the crap social media peddles) and have a stable income and whatever. Uh... if you do decide to go square dancing, you'll meet a lot of old people. So keep that in mind. If you go rock climbing, please stay safe. Make sure you stretch often to reduce the risk of injury. I hope everything I said made sense.

TLDR: Dating apps promote FOMO and you should seek out positive social events as a means of forming connections. If you are lucky, you'll find your special someone. Even if you don't, you'll still form good memories.
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>>114860
DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!


probably wouldn't happen though :(
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>>114855 (OP) 
few realize that the furry "fandom" is just a reincarnation of the various fraternal orders that were prevelant in western society since the middle ages, when faustian culture moved past its infancy
expansion beyond the tribe and specialization of labor necessitated a sociatal unit that would represent the interests of skilled laborers, who were above the common peasent farmer but still below nobility, thus birthing guilds of a wide variety. 
but, these guilds had an unintended use beyond merely laboral representation. they provided a place for men to intermingle, conduct business, and find fellowship with one another. it provided a level of familarity below that of immediate family, but well above that with which complete strangers were treated with. thus was born, the prototypical fraternal order
into the 18th - 20th century, the need for these fraternal orders only grew, as urbanization and mechinized travel made the strangers of the world all the more strange. the village was replaced by the city, and men would need fellowship more than ever to survive this new, low trust world. hence, the massive expansion of the fraternal order, whether it be the masons, churches, unions, greek life, etc. through these, employers would find laborers, bachelors would find wives, travelers would find friendly faces at sister lodges, and the microsociety of the fraternal order would thrive. 
but in the 21st century, these classical fraternities are dying. rootless cosmopolitaness, corporatization, late stage capitalism, union busting, irreligiousness, the death of the third space; there's a countless number of causes of the death of the traditional fraternal order, for they are simply obselete in the digital age. but, that isnt to say they're on their way out. i posit that the exact opposite is the case
when a young man of today seeks fellowship, where does he go? the Internet, of course. but not the Internet as a whole, he goes to his Discord server (lodge, church, etc), themed around a specific fandom (order) where a small number of regular order members frequent. with this mindset, one will realize that the furry community as a whole is merely a rebirth of the fraternal orders of yesteryear; a decentrialized one albiet, but nonetheless the perfect order for the Internet age. already, business is conducted (furry art commissions) and love is found (furry edating), is it really that much of a stretch to assume that, in the age of foreign indian strangers and rogue AIs annihilating the bazaar that was the employment market, employers would begin seeking skilled labor from within their order rather than from outside?
and that is merely the beginning i tell you! i, for one, am observing the evolution of the furry order with great anticipation, as i believe that we are at the precipice of something truly magnificant.
>>115068
omg you're so esoteric
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>>115072
I think what he's trying to say is that you and I should try this "furry edating" thing together? What do you say?
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>>115078
ew
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>>115110
idgi
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>>115117
It's us bro
>>115041
Going to stupid fake communitay events for old people or clownish sporting venues just to find a female, "Why isn't ISIS better"?. If the only thing that made the 'old arrangement' (read: before dating apps and automobile urbanism) function was that most people had to settle for local options, why should we try to return to it instead of pushing forward towards something new? Every piece of dating advice that isn't suggesting hardline Incel 3.0 is so fucking twee and wilfully ignorant of the real situation.
>>115068
I guess. "*New thing* is actually *Old thing*" is trite and puerile bullshit for trannies but I could see something like this happening to a few key online scenes if ZOG doesn't crush the vital people and spaces involved in an act of desperation to save its formal cultural industries. Maybe not to the extent that seeking out a local Furry HVAC technician wouldn't sound absurd.
>but in the 21st century, these classical fraternities are dying. rootless cosmopolitaness, corporatization, late stage capitalism, union busting, irreligiousness, the death of the third space
These canned reasons for the death of fraternal organisations don't make any sense, craftsman guilds couldn't compete with 19th century industrialisation (and weren't ceded any room to exist unlike unions post-45) - what *stage* of capitalism was that? Religious institutions haven't functioned that way on any meaningful scale since the enlightenment, and workers' unions have only ever functioned that way in revolutionary Russia.
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>>115127
>Maybe not to the extent that seeking out a local Furry HVAC technician wouldn't sound absurd.
quite the contrary, i see nothing more ideal than exactly that! in the past, it would not be unreasonable for the jew of yore to seek a jewish cobbler to fix their shoes, or a jewish carpenter to make their cabinets. perhaps i'm being too idealistic, but why shouldn't we strive to do the same?
>These canned reasons for the death of fraternal organizations don't make any sense
>what *stage* of capitalism was that?
the specific reasons are unimportant, and to study them in detail would be, for the purposes of this theorem, a waste of time. all that matters is that the orders of old are, quite evidently, on their way out, and that something new can, and likely will take their place. 
>Religious institutions haven't functioned that way on any meaningful scale since the enlightenment
perhaps not the institute as a whole, e.g. the clergy in Rome would not affect the day to day of a parish in Baltimore, but to say that the church of the 19th and 20th century had no meaningful effect at all would simply be incorrect. where else would the young and unmarried would meet and intermingle? where else would one seek employment, or perhaps a hired hand?
>>114922
>Stay off those apps, they will only radicalize you
Yeah, that's what I've noticed. I've avoided them for the most part, but my sister met her bf and a cousin met her husband on one so I figured I should properly try them. The only big one I haven't really looked at is Facebook dating.
It's pretty depressing. Most girls profiles are like two sentences long and indistinguishable from one another. A girl messaged me first on one app and was clearly phoning in the conversation, she was never interested in the first place.
Most women on there just want attention, I think. It screws up the experience for both men and women who are genuinely looking.
Plus the dating apps get money off of people staying on there, they're incentivized to keep things that way. Perhaps it would be best if dating apps were illegal or nationalized. I'm not sure.

I've seen some people online mention /soc/ so I'm almost tempted to post there, although there's a lot of irl pornography on that board which is definitely not good. Maybe vrchat? Though that has a lot of attention seeking women and GIRLs (Guy In Real Life)

>>115041
Thanks. I have always heard that irl is the way to go, and I would conceptually agree, yet can't apply that in practice.
I think something's just fucked up with my generation and it was accelerated due to covid during college. My friends and I just don't have much of a reason to go out often and when we do, it's just the guys and we don't interact with randos. We have ~zero overlap with women. I don't know what they spend their time on. I have two buddies who go out rock climbing, but they don't have women either.
+1 to rock climbing for a hobby though, it's a great way to get a work out while having fun too. If you do it enough you deceptively look only moderately fit, except you can crush stones into dust with your bare hands.

>>115068
I would be willing to support the Furry Guild. It has already spread its tendrils throughout tech, maybe it's powerful enough to take over all those masonic lodges around. I do think the checkerboard pattern is cool.
Also I have found that furry edating is- unfortunately- mostly gays. I am saving homosexuality as a last resort.

>>115078
I will keep you in mind, my friend. As said, only a last resort though.
>>114855 (OP) 
>near my Uni
I absolutrly hate how everyone here has started adapting britbag speak.
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>>115578
tsmt this is anerica . Speak american or something
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