/anthro/ - Anthropomorphic

>>127172
No, he's a lot more obsessed with solar power for whatever reason. 
Also, using anything but solid or hypergolic rocket fuel for a missile is a really bad idea (Which SpaceX doesn't use at all except for the RCS/abort thrusters on the Dragon Spacecraft).

>>127173
Could you explain to me why it's a bad idea

>>127173
Here's one that occurred to me a while back.

Since the original blueprints have been lost, recruit a team of bright mechanical engineering grad students to spend a weekend reverse-engineering the Saturn V booster stage.  The Smithsonian still has an intact one.  It happens that the circumference is just sufficient for there to be room to bolt on eight of the solid rocket boosters designed for the Space Shuttle.  I'll let you do the math and see for yourself how much mass the resulting frankenrocket could lift into orbit. it's almost seven hundred tons Rule of thumb is to multiply that by five if it only has to achieve a suborbital trajectory.  So someone who could build this kind of thing, and guide it precisely on the way down, could drop an asteroid on people at just shy of orbital velocity if he were sufficiently annoyed with them.

>>127175
SpaceX and other orbital launch vehicles use cryogenic fluids for their rockets which need to be maintained at very cold temperatures or else they'll evaporate. This limits how long you can have it sitting on a launch pad. Waiting 30 minutes to fuel up a rocket limits kinda blows compared to having something that can be fired at a moments notice. That's why all modern ICBMs use either solid or hypergolic fuels since they require little maintenance and can be stored for long periods of time.

>>127181
do you really think waiting half an hour before you can fire your ICBM is a good idea compared to being able to fire it on a moment's notice?

>>127182
Is fuming red nitric acid still the usual oxidizer for hypergolic propellant setups?  LOX is nasty stuff, corrosive and needing cryo storage, but FRNA gives it a run for its money.

>>127188
what problem?

>>127190
nyagga there is no "problem" to be fixed. using cryogenic fluids in a missile makes no sense

>>127192
>lets just make an overly complicated missile for no reason
gek no wonder why you krauts lost the war

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>>127195
>no rebuttal
I won

>>127184
To be entirely fair, you're probably going to have to wait for the technicians to assemble the warheads anyway.

The plutonium cores of nuclear weapons emit a great deal of radiation.  One of the things this means is that things in close proximity to them decay rapidly, often in ways you might not have expected if all you had to work with was high school chemistry.  The radiation strips away electrons, breaks down some chemical bonds and permits others to form, sometimes of new and novel types.  The high explosive charges that are supposed to assemble the critical mass at the moment if firing may become so unstable that they're unsafe to handle, or break down in other ways that make them into duds.  The very expensive, very sophisticated electronics that are supposed to fire them off precisely in series microseconds apart get fried.  You can't just build it and put it on a shelf, or in a missile, and leave it.  You have to have technicians constantly checking and inspecting this stuff, otherwise it may not work.  The techs need extremely rare and specialized knowledge.  The techs also need a motivation that goes beyond money, because they're looking at a non-trivial chance of dying young from leukemia.

One of the things this means is that the news stories during the Cold War about this or that government claiming to have umpty thousand Nyukes were distractions.  It is enormously expensive to build a nuclear arsenal. It is also enormously expensive to maintain one.  How many warheads does your opponent have ready to go this morning, as opposed to disassembled on thousands of test benches?  We dno, gek.  These estimates were always classified, as were the assumptions and methods that were used to calculate them.  I personally suspect that the Russian stockpile was never more than a fraction of 1% of what they claimed, because their economy wasn't capable of supporting the maintenance more would have required. But the Pentagon does not solicit my opinions.

>>127199
sharty lost

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Is this the thread?

>>127202
Averi being real would solve waltuh hunger worldwide

>>127205
stahp

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>>127202
Fox.

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>>127203
My interpretation is that it is likely to take as long to fuel up a missile as it is to assemble the warhead anyway.  It would probably be necessary to assemble a warhead prior to firing anyway, due to the limited number you can keep "hot 'n' ready" because of the maintenance required.

It seems like powerful people want to keep the public terrified of impossible, irrelevant things.  This has been going on for a while now.  Before the Internet, network TV was constantly shouting in everyone's ear about The Nucular Threat, both overtly, on the nightly news, and more subtly, in a hundred made-for-TV movies about Our Troubled Yoots, in which the camera would zoom in on some long-haired child actor obsessively drawing skull-shaped mushroom clouds in his school notebook, then throwing it at his alarmed parents and yelling NUTHIN MATTERS 'COS WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE with his eyes bugging out and his earrings a-clattering and a-jangling side to side from the sheer impossible force of how hard he was emoting.  And once the Cold War came to an end, and they needed a new boogeyman with which to frighten the public and gas up the idiots, imaginary existential threats to humanity were manufactured one after another, each seamlessly discarded and replaced once it had served its purpose:  "global warming," the "hole" in the ozone layer, "terrorism," one after another, without end.  We have always been at war with Eastasia.

And this pernicious nonsense was very useful to certain powerful people.  It mobilized persons of a certain sensibility, by which I mean, unstable morons, to carry out acts of political violence that they found useful. It gave politicians of a certain stripe a perfect segue to say LET'S STOP BULLYING THE POOR MISUNDERSTOOD RUSSIANS, GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT, IF WE TRY TO RESIST WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.  And while people were talking about this artificial crisis, of course, they weren't talking about the junkie who got out of jail this morning and shoved Grandma onto the subway tracks ten minutes later.

They have been manipulating you with nonsense for a very long time now.  And I do not, strictly speaking, mean ((( THEM ))), either.  Being a powerful spiteful asshole with a grudge against civilization and a burning desire to immiserate the peasantry doesn't automatically come with a big nose and a little hat.  If only it were so simple.

The older I get, the more I admire Mencken.  Do you suppose Averi has read any of his work?

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>>127197
>>127212
nyagga y'all are missing the point

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>>127178
Why bring back the Saturn V booster when we have something with 3x more thrust and the capability to return to the launch site for reuse?

test

fef janny had a melty and shoah'd all my posts

>>127319
haha

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>>127225
Is reusability really that important for orbital bombardment?

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>>127356
To bring back an asteroid, you're gonna need a powerful interplanetary tug to push it, which will likely have to be assembled in LEO through multiple launches, just like a space station. A reusable super-heavy-lift launch vehicle is the best tool for that task.

But then again, they did show this off in their IPO roadshow presentation, so maybe Starship could bring it back itself gek. It'll still require multiple launches to refuel the ship in order to go interplanetary and intercept an asteroid tho.

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>>127362
Maybe think more along the lines of an ICBM with a kinetic warhead, like, say, for example, a kiloton or two of reinforced concrete that will drop out of the sky at 8 km/sec.

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>>127363
>AI (Which is ALWAYS right btw) says its less effective than a Hiroshima Nyvke and literally 1000 times as heavy as a hydrogen bomb with the same yield.
why would u do dis?
also you'll have to shield it so it doesn't melt before it gets a chance to impact the target.

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It's the sort of plan a supervillain might make if he had access to advanced rocketry but not nuclear physicists, reactors, heavy water, uranium mines, etc.

Or, if we're talking about nation-state actors, it's something an affluent government might think about if they were making plans to deal with a hostile nation known to have deep underground command bunkers, and so on, and they wanted alternatives to nuclear weapons and all the geopolitical >implications associated with using them.

>>127321
Oh. Is that what the message in /meta/ was about?

No. It can't happen now. And it shouldn't happen now. Just hold on for another decade or two, things are in the works, historical processes are in motion.
>>127321
That's really fluffing convenient for posterity, isn't it? Thanks a fluffing lot, whoever did that.

>>127042
chihuahuas can be kino if they are not inbred and living under retards.
they also mog bigger dogs in terms of lifespan.

>>127441
Use case?
>also mog bigger dogs in terms of lifespan.
So do termite queens. Both are about equal in terms of aesthetics and usefulness.

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>>127021 (OP) 
Because there are anthros IN space, dumbass.

>>127461
Kek

>>127461
Heh heh m heh m heh heh heh m heh m heh heh.

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>>127021 (OP) 
it's a good financial investment, they can replace inefficient things like cars

>>127568
and nyaggers!

>>127568
>replace inefficient things like cars
wat

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>>127574

>>127482
hmha heheh heh, muahha hehe heh, mhehe heh.

>>127589
Again, it's tragic. But not a complete unwillingness to think beyond the zog wageslave paradigm, at least

>>127961
The right wing version of being a poet in the commune

>>127961
Having a job is normal and doesn't make you a zog wafeslave you fluffing loser

>>127965
nyagreed

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>>127965
A lot modern jobs are aberrations of late-stage capitalism. Nothing of real, tangible value is produced by these kind of jobs. They only exist  to back some imaginary values, so yes, it is goyslaving.

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>>127999
You aren't wrong. I view the phenomenon you describe, however, as a symptom of something much bigger, that goes far deeper.

The economy of most every Western nation is phony numbers, all fake and gay all the way down.  We used to manufacture things. That is where wealth actually comes from:  the factory, the farm, and the mine.  Everything else is nonsense, shuffling around wealth that already exists as Uncle roof rat shaves off another little slice every time a piece of paper changes hands.  GDP figures used to be an excellent proxy for national power, and from them you could infer pretty accurately which nation could make more artillery shells in a month.  That's all gone.  It's all phony funny money, all how many zeroes Mr. Bankstein added to his coffers this morning by buying the yen and selling the Euro short, how much money he made by owning stock in a bank in Costa Rica that his cousin Melvin used to stash the eight hundred million he made yesterday by buying out a privatized national pension fund and looting it.  It's all bullshit all the way down.  The fact that it's become so noticeable that it's all pretend, so that Britney and Shaneequa can get their three hundred large a year to be girlbosses at make-believe quangoes, means, among other things, that the Powers that Be have grown bored with maintaining the charade. They're phoning it in while they load steamer trunks with gold bars and bundles of hundred dollar bills in preparation for skipping the country.  It's reaching a point, I think, where it's no longer profitable to keep up appearances because they've sucked just about the last cent out of the economy they've spent the last eighty years systematically dismantling, and it's time to make aliyah.  This isn't to sa

>>128005
Retarded boomergoy slop

Go live in Russia or some other 3rd world country if you genuinely believe this. There's a reason why the bottom 90% are all flocking to the west.
>Umm it's because the roof rats are sending them here!!
there are plenty of ethnically homogeneous nyagger tribes that you can assimilate to

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>>128005
Dammit. I hate using a phone for this.  This is not to say we won't see some sudden and drastic dislocations take place when the props get pulled out and sold for their scrap metal content, of course.  And all the data centers won't save us, they won't revolutionize the economy.  They exist to store, sort, and collate Flock camera data so that your masters can keep tabs on you more easily, then, secondarily, because a subset of venture capitalists have been sold the idea that if they just feed enough "big data" into the machine ("big data" is things like credit card purchase records from 1974) and feed in enough electricity, the machines will begin magically printing them infinite money. Another set of venture capitalists believes you'll pay a subscription fee for access to systems that will allow you to make infinite phony photographs of famous women's feet.  This is not going to make us all rich.  This is not going to cure cancer.

This is depressing. Have a kot.

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>everyone ITT

>no one ITT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKMS62GrTI

>>128353
>visible stars
fake and gay